THIS MAY BE A PART ONE
NOTE: the continuing “THE AI AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED SERIES will resume. Currently we have already complete through PART 10 but may need to do 1-2 more..
but we’re playing catchup with a couple of these mature ministry articles. So by Wed the next series installment
TD says, “Happy Father’s Day to all dads, stepdads, granddads, and children whose fathers are up with God in heaven. To honor the father who founded the many branches of the Christian faith, I will write this article below, for it keeps us humble and gives perspective.”
THIS IS MY POINT: By God’s GRACE.… I am standing on the shoulders of the former spiritual Fathers and Mothers’ Faith Filled and Holy Ghost Book of Acts TRAINING. I give honor and MANY THANKS!
FOR I TAVEAU JOHNSON D’ARCY would NOT be alive and in sound chipper mind and with GREAT TEACHING now left to do had I NOT had great pure FATHER hero role models in the natural but also FATHERS in the Family and MANY CHRISTIAN FATHERS who founded prior Bible believing moves..and this includes TV and media from the last Move of God’s 50’s on up.
Sincerely,Taveau
For All Your Notice: We’re”into” EORR collaborating.. being “SENT” by God’s leader divine appointment” such as co-laboring, giving wise advice, completing, contributing creative ideas, theology…prayer yet without competing as is solely EPHESIANS 4 COMMUNITY! “hence www.CrossBodyUnity.com
This is officially the Article:
PART 1 THE APOSTLE PAUL “OLD BIBLE MOVES MEET NEW ONE”S
WHY BEING A “SENT MESSENGER”OFFICE GALATIANS 1:1-2 IS HEALTHY.
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“I Paul, an apostle, not sent out by any one person or any one group, I and the brothers (surely there were mothers, cousins, sisters) who are with me.”
WE NOTE that Apostle Paul was a Galatians 1;1-2 mega office, however he viewed himself by the “only God truly sees” or “Eternal assesment ” simply one more of God’s servants, whom he described as “the offscouring” meaning “the dung” of this world
And apostle Paul while we measure his life and major achievement in light of today as perhaps “the Famous Well Known Celebrity Paul’ when, if we lived back in his meager early days we would see the often “prison cell” real life deep reality ..of his love and his genuine and mature walk with Christ.
Apostle Paul was no junior minister, seeking after world wide renown, rather he was a SENT MESSENGER yet abiding servant leader who wrote 2/3 of the New Testament and trained the Community of Christians even naming and creating the office (prophet, apostle, teacher, pastor, evangelist) in Ephesians 4.
Yet with all we know about Apostle Paul and how valuable he was back in the day and ever now, more so. we cannot avoid realizing that whenever Paul penned the Ministry Vocabulary real life fellowship word, that we widely recognize and regard as “TRUE” and the OFFICE MINISTRY “Standard” even with some, or maybe many, who are regard those as an “achievement ” an “ambition” a big “position of award ” ” to obtain and attain” ..we must keep each of our own selves leveled as messenger Paul evidently did, before the eyes of God and himself, we note the following..that whenever the apostle Paul “the Church Galatians 1-1-2 “Sent Messenger” used any of the 5 fold office ministry words, plus the word “bishop’ and “deacon” that he always wrote them out with a lower case letter, (implying servant leader not chief potentate or celebrity” ) and this perservering writer believes that is one secret for ministry right this now
So as this writer pens this topic, and makes everyone in Christian leadership aware that while this person is a ‘her” that ‘she”God’s person first and foremost, not any other pastors, ministers or persons Galatians 1:1-2 similar equipping ministry office and in fact, sr office of all of the remaining for (just not well known other than to God Almighty) and “that’ is exactly how I prefer all of this, as there is too much ‘fame amid fancy” today.
So let us walk back to past times, in the Pre Christian far more global, predominately would darker skinned andtribal yet epic era (for this person regards much of the Christian world today in the ‘post Christian epic era” …So we must, realize about this and on behalf of the True Christ, and His Body adjust each of our own ambitious selves…and lower it. s, view the First Church, and self humble each one of our own First Love pure hearts, as unto the Living Lord.
Peace without the 2 Timothy 3:1-5 unction of ministry big dysfunction” www.onlinefellowship.us
FIRST: ABOUT PAUL..HOW HE JOINED THE FIRST CHURCH OFFICE MINISTRY
Bible history teaches that the apostle Paul came later, after the 12 Original Apostles who were each handpicked and personally mentored by Jesus. He did not fit in with them at first, for he was not their “style” as they were used to “themselves’ and their traditions that they had learned sitting at Jesus Feet.
Paul, prior to his big encounter with the Lord had been the merciless Saul, a religious zealot and authoritarian legalist. In his righteous indignation and holy ire against God’s New Move…had angrily persecuted the new first church, even Big Boss murdering the Christians.
For Saul had regarded himself as “Defender of the Torah Law at nearly any cost!
HOWEVER LATER GOD GOT MINISTER SAUL’S LP ATTENTION and he genuinely had a major real life personal encounter with the Lord and repented, and born again!
Then,firey Saul transformed into Paul ..who was eager go serve in the First Church in Jerusalem. His ferver and zeal for things of Jesus Christ was authentic and servant pure. However the newly saved Paul met a road block with the first 12 chief apostle who had been hand picked and mentored ‘personally” by Jesus Christ ..and Paul had not been.
So in light of apostolic ministry ,, we may regard Paul as following after the first 12 and he had not been officially ‘hand picked” and “directly mentored ” and /or walked and talked personally with Jesus, yet in our overview and in major hindsight we can now regard Paul as “Home Schooled mostly by the Holy Spirit in first Love Relationship..mostly apart from the First 12 Organic Church Apostles (For about his first 13-14 Damascas, Syria years!)
TO TAVEAU ..HER SUBMITTED OPINION
this Paul coming LATER than the FIRST MINISTRY LEADERSHIP FLOW is quite a signficant ministry training point, in light of a new move of God and this one currently which is unfolding.
THE ABOVE TIES IN WITH ALL OF THIS but is a new article which focuses just upon that
THE NEWLY CONVERTED PAUL WAS NOT WANTED BY THE FIRST 12 CHURCH APOSTLES (
Mini backstory
And this writer doesn’t officially know all about “why” Apostle Paul was not favored, by the First 12, handpicked by Jesus…yet I certainly do understand the “elite mindset” turf.
TD EXPLAINS IT LIKE THIS
To picture CHRIST imparting and instructing, prior to all of this highfolutin fame and achievement, toying, mega flamboyance.. JUST THE RIGHT TRAINING and MENTORING to part the waters of the ORGANIC FIRST CHURCH…but then it needed OTHER Spiritual revelation and other imparting persons.. Hence Apostle Paul and whom ever after ..
REASON: the natural and spiritual environment and society and dogma and difficulties of each generation are a tad or a whole lot different….like they are now
So, eventually God brings forward the “next “crowd of His high called, saved, anointed offices, all colors, many various nations, and ‘revelations” and Holy Spirit anointing that helps to seal and deliver and perpetuate GOD’S CHURCH.
And so on.
The Already Established and In Place Crowd have one way, a display a choice of God’s Holy Spirit and differing Bible revelations due to the society and epic era. Then comes along a Rising NEW (non famous ) group and with a different “peculiar strange vibe” due to their leg of the Journey being in a different point in time in society and in the earth.
Whie this is the same “community” ( all “saved
believers) there can be similarities and same doctrines..but there will a different spin on what God realizes that it “Takes” to win the lost at that newer and key moment in time…So one may liken this to THEM each having God’s anointing but perhaps different ‘manifestation of it’ with different emphasis, looks, methods and worship music.
However,(and meaning this for the New Future Apostlolic International Move..but also the OLD ONE to make room and look ahead to evolve to willingly accepted, to contribute and to “maturally collaborate” yet without feeling competitive ,threatened or accusing due to YOUR LACK of ministry wide understanding.
I speak from the viewpoint of “one” who has endured, who has taken up the cross to do this..to undercover what is now ‘said” And I address BOTH the “old’ and the “new’ even future “NEWER right moves” as one as to be accepted at first ,by “ONLY GOD ALONE” and maybe a hand picked God few..until HE sees fit
And NOW it is fit for this minister and His Ephesians 4 “Cross Body Movement” to come forward WITHE THE EMPHASIS ON RELATIONSHIPS and FIND THE HEART OF GOD.. not money, although it takes money to get it out and to get ahead.
And I realize that ,yet will continue to develop “THAT MINISTRY PART” slowly and thoroughly as God persmits.
ALL WE NEED NOW IS MUCH SUPPORTIVE PRAYER and RIGHT GOD SENT TRUE MINISTRY PERSONS..and office helps, advisors and donation supporters
But that WILL COME so I am abiding patient and Godly contented.
THE OLD WAYS..”OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY” VS GRASS ROOTS ..LET US LEAD!!
Thus any former move Good News Glad Tidings, Holy Spirit, preachers..seens A PAST, NOW IN PLACE TRUE MOVE…still must make room for the “recent” and I am with that..also feel part of it to LINK THE OTHER to tell people how to behave.
REASON for I was SENT “specifically called, commissioned directly by” the Lord, back in 1976, to study the many moves of Bible teaching, Holy Spirit, worship and office prophesy, founder lead apostles..and I had reared safely prior to all that by two loving and genuine Billy Graham mature Southern Baptist yield authority (non governmentally controling nor white LP) who reared me up in the holy fear of the Lord, which I still value and attempt to abide by each and every (non traditional, Bible believing real life Day).
It was the..the growing influence on packaging, presentaition then marketing to make “our MINSITRY, “MY NAME well known” (all grand intentions) Yet little we realize the potential for abuse, for prostititution and many “Christians’ selling their souls TO ARRIVE and be well off. Name this as ‘the world, flesh and the devil strong ministry effects” P
AND THAT IS WHAT I FIND TODAY in charismatic PC and that is WHY I have backed off, repeatedly evaluated my own ‘self” my “life’ and call before God and “ministry”
ALSO who and what is a CHRISTIAN? And /or a professing Minister? and/or an JUNIOR Christian “rising mantled ministry’ as compared to the “ambitious, immature ‘wannabe” and WHO IS TRULY modeling “ORGANIC CHRIST FOLLOWING ” (again, the training definition of “ORGANIC” means ‘without synthetic human additives” **
**which I have myself and so do we ALL, but I am trying to seek the Lord about and so can YOU.
SEE TOBY MAC VIDEO: LOSE MY SOUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ec6xT9ixGE
Thus any and each mega, micro or mini former MOVE which is presenting itself as “NEW” ..even in use of persons and “METHODS” needs to overcome the “OLD MOVES: ways…most especially when there is autocratic set in place, hard core steel turf protecting, proud” religion”
So this jogs my memory to recall when the Word of Faith first came onto the scene.. I recall a supply of them (for they were back then the NEW Move which apparently kept having difficulties with the set in place ‘OUR, MY TRADITION ” of the OLD Christian move. I recall this verse being taught to open up the minds and critical hearts of the more traditional denominational move.(NOT this was way back , the milder, gentler more country and reserved “starter” e word of faith in 80s (before it morphed into what is not called ‘the prosperity teaching” and it was country America, primarily Native American Pure Causcasion (Oral Roberts, Kenneth Copeland were of Indigenous deep ancestory and not about Baptist turned pentecost Kenneth Hagin, Sr (who I still revere)…I accepted them way back then, before it got morphed by the many AMBITIOUS who still might trade upon their good name to make it “Big”..
I INTENTIONALL RECALL THE GOOD HEALTHY FRUIT OF WORD OF FAITH OFFICE FIRST APOSTOLIC MINISTRY TEACHING ROOTS (whom I leader respect) also which I now employ (yet VERY PURPOSELY….MINUS the “MONEY’ part.) So I name these FIRST FRUITS which continue in the PRESENT now might world wide famous movements(YET NEED TO CLARIY..at least it so appears in many of the top founders, yet as I deeply know this move I cannot vouch for the ministers who say there are UNDER THEM or in ther ministry organization, for I have been there and pulled out. NOT DUE TO THE WELL RECOGNISED TOP FOUNDERS but due to the non contrite, often playtime Demas even diseased, devout imposing leader immature followers.
NOT 250% of these are like that but TOO MANY REALLY ARE.
THIS IS WHAT I REVERE IN THE BASICS OF THAT ONE PURE WHOLESOME MOVE
AGAIN; in the recognized founders at least yet cannot guarentee one bit about their devout followers:
1. NO respecter of persons spirit
2. NO racism/gender bias/class consciousness (way back then)
3.Country sounding but smart and not play time just very pentecostal and more diverse, lively but ‘learning the turf” before EXPLODING in wide acceptance and then tending toward PURE MOVE was morphed, corrupted even exploited and used BY MANY.
SO I defend the TOP OWNERS until I dropped due to the GRASS ROOTS PONTIFICATING AMBITION and false FRUITS (meaning in the grass roots SMALL ministers)..
4. They are not under the Old Timey Country LP Law (means the TOP not necessarily the bottom follower churches)
5. They knew both the prophetic, Holy Spirit, the power of God AND the Holy Bible
BUT NOW TO MY WORD OF FAITH EXPERIENCE PLUS USA DOCTRINAL BIBLE 60 PLUS YEARS OF BORN AGAIN BIBLE BELIEVING “WE REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST ” CHIEF WHOLE OUT STUDY TO “TODAY”
Yes, I recall them , respecting Word of Faith, being part of the Avant Guarde in Ministry in their own Day…also being ONE of the USA ‘the new move of Gods” ..so I heard a couple of their teachers instruct the newly attending Grass Roots people in this verse ”
“…the traditions of men, make the move of God’s Holy Spirit null and void” (loose paraphrase of Mark 7:8-9 and Collossians 2:8-10)
YET NOW I would caution THESE in the same formal Set In Place Word of Faith (but also many NOT IN word faith but in all diverse ministry branches, in all styles, races, forms and ministry sizes to DO THE SAME..to heed the Spirit of the Lord in that exact same Holy Spirit (advance forward) ADVICE.
GRASS ROOTS TURMOIL?
THIS new move is “not Jezebel” as they like to rumor..having all of the goods and accomadations of the Last now rich mighty mega recognized (prior to now was accepting and humble) ..REASON..it is not about THEM or ME, or US but about the LORD..so it’s time to move over and allow the new mantled EORR pure remnant ministry move to come out..without white witchcraft , accusation, rumors, the mostly targeting demonic deprechatory subliminal evil eye prayers. ( PS also tell your LEADERS, STAFF, white ELDERS, INTERCESSORS and DEVOUT TARGETING TRUE FOLLOWERS.
MAMMON AND MINISTY MOVE AND MONEY
And also about ALL STYLES OF CHRISTIAN BIBLE TEACHING …plus it is NOT ABOUT “MAKING IT BIG, RICH, FAMOUS OR DEMAS “BLESS ME”
(which I say, understanding that this wise teaching IS NOT ALL GOOD but not ALL ERRANT)
WHERE I AM WITH REGARDS TO ANY WORD OF FAITH
I am a charismatic (2012 DFW) and I am not “WORD OF FAITH” due to Controversy plus having MY OWN MOVE Cross Body Unity to build many bridges and to take what is HAY from all Bible teaching real moves and THROW OUT ANY STUBBLE (which you all may do with mine)
Frankly, I admit that owe a lot to the word of faith move, first due to God’s SPIRIT invested in HIS BIBLE SCRIPTURE but then via Kenneth Copeland(from 1979) and then Kenneth Hagin from 80s”I learned much more about it, including the value of pentecost, praying in tongues, more.
And upon my dear fathers surprise sudden death, my prayer warrior grandmothers passing around the same time and the birth of my first born child…following all of that at once, plus the fact that the dear newborn would not sleep for more than 2 hours at a time period 24/7 all of this combined, plus I also was homebound with no car.no family, other than myhusband in the area..and on top of that I had great post partum depression…plus the nightly news..
YET in the midst of all of that I turned toward the Lord ,not away from Him and pressed in. Eventually God used true prophet KennethCopeland to call me to ‘study the Bible and to be of cheer” via the local AM low watt Christian radio.
Eventually I felt a call from the Lord to ministry, GOD USED BOTH OF WISE BROTHERS (again way back when before people fanned them and their apostolic teaching “into MONEY, I was called to ministry and helped to over come depression, ministry dysfunction, emotional deep abuse .satanic attacking and walking and living by Faith, learned how to keep my JOY to say YOUNG and VIGOROUS, to BE CREATIVE and MINISTER…and to SURVIVE DEEP DEMONIC PRISON SiTUATIONS…during the most long enduring, Pauline imprisonment and extreme DANGEROUS points in time BY TUNING INTO THESE whenever GOD DIRECTED… ON MEDIA.
SO I owe WORD OF FAITH CORE TEACHING as A LIFESAVER and PURE JOY QUALITY OF LIFE PRESERVER AND EHANCER..but this has SEEN IT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT and GO OFF, which i have myself, my aunt and the got it right, HOWEVER it was NOT THEM OR THEIR BIBLE TEACHING it was ME..being immature or not knowing.
SO I have grown and am SUPER CAUTIOUS about MONEY and DOCTRINES.
So I can help the ministry “YOU” with word of faith ministry doctrines, answer faith or ministry questions : crossbodyunity1@gmail.com.
THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS TEACHING
To cleanse and purify MOSTLY the slick accustion of ministry moves including this WOF one.
TARGET ORGANIC CORE TEACHINGS OF THE TOP FOUNDERS, TEACHERS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER FAME, MERCHANDIZING AND PROPHETIC WHAT MIGHT BE ” FALSE” AND WHAT HAPPENS STILL TO BE “BIBLE TRUE”…(teachers, ministers, prophets and Rumors, heresay, TMZ STYLE CHRISTIANS accusing to get MONEY off of bashing the “prosperity teachers” for they realize that CALLING THEM THAT draws the blood thirst sharks who then creatve MANY hundreds of thousand CLICK BAIT MONETIZED VIDEOS
(I name these DEMAS FOR DOLLARS, LP BASH FOR CASH, “NAMING AND DEFAMING” CHRISTAIN AGAINST CHRIST NEW “PROSERITY TEACHING ,wanting to be FAMOUS Now Move”)
MY PURE REASONS FOR DISSECTING MANY DOCTRINES IN A CROSS BODY UNITY EPHESIANS 4 “UNIFIYING’ HOPEFULY CLARIFYING NOW METHOD”
Eternal Holy God is so vast that nobody can get a glimpse much less contain or manifest HIM fully so He releases bits and glimpses of Himself throughout History in His many genuine Bible based moves… yet each has a different “facet’ “look’ appearance’ makes doctrines, worship…aka to a taste of His eternal inner spiritual DNA…
“Only God” truly knows what is needed for the next multicultural different ages within that New Generation. I call it’ The Future Church” which is my turf now.
And I relate to Paul in this quite a lot as he had at first been Saul an LP of Top Main LP’s. a Torah keeper’s keeper and as an LP (Levitical Patriarchy) he bore the same exact spirit as the Saul spear throwing, murderous and aggressed, sabotaged..somewhat dysfunctional and not “relationship adult (mature”)
TAVEAU’S WISE MOTHER
Taveau’s own Mother said more than one, while she was a teenager. Mom, was a Southern Baptist, sr pastor’s wife, who stemmed from a nest of Noble Bereans and spirit-led prayer warriors but not a prophet, nor were any of them “spirit filled’ back in that day…
So for Nonie Simons Johnson to say this, way back when, was in hindsight truly prophetic for my move of God after being “SENT ” to surf and to study the many different styles of Bible-believing, professing to be born again Christians, around the United States ..Book of Acts and not, all races and worship styles. (since prior to 1980 through now)
Mom made this comment 2-3 times. Again, it was not her topic yet amazing. This is what she said that she had noticed,
“When a Bible teaching movement or group, is in place, well known, respected and accepted, then another movement begins to rise up but they are not famous or widely respected. They are “unknowns”and the well known and accepted , popular ministries “in place ” tends to openly suspect, name call, persecute, talk against, warn their people and look down on these “unknown” “rising’ (yet might ) authentic Bible God move. (TAVEAUS also they more often than not, get word cursed “these are Absolum’ the Queen Jezebel or uspurping OUR authority,..perceived and accused and prayed against as ‘they are coming to TAKE OUR TURF (meaning MONEY)
MOM CONTINUES..However, after this ‘new move” grows up, finally takes on, gets respected, like and accepted and well known,… then another new move willl begin…
AND the move that finally got accepted and respected begins to react like the ones who persecuted THEM..so they intern, fear persons coming to “take their turf, their people, their income”and to THEY persecute, accuse, wordcurse, look down on, talk against and mock the NEXT new NEWER move..and so it goes!”
(Taveau’s dear Mother had no clue what her telling me this would mean long after her relocation to be up with my Dad in heaven!’
NOTE: So from the begining and due to all of that , by God’s unwarrented leader grace.. I learned not to take myself or this too seriously. The Logic implies that out in the rank and file, seated in the congregation and online(as many do not feel respected in most of these LP autocratic churches) there is potentially a new move past “this one” (meaning: If the Lord doesn’t come first!)
And with that said, this implies that out there ,asleep in the nursery** somewhere, around the Globe and in any nation, also in the USA..that God’s rising offices are going to eventually awaken to hatch His Plan.**
(**if we don’t let other people kill them first…)
More later.
TO SUPPORT? Play for TD and ALL OF THIS as we seek to find our area location and helps
TO DONATE TO GIVE: Do it this way “MATTHEW 6:4 “Give in secret and the Lord will reward YOU openly”
THIS MEANS to me : IF AND WHEN HE SAYS ‘Give in this direction, please do so and in whatever FASHION OR SIZE , Style GIFT. (
SEE TOP HOME PAGE GIVE LINK for doing that..
YET…If He tells YOU to give somewhere ELSE.. then then GIVE as unto the LORD in some mature fashion. And following pleasing HIM..then LET HIM reward you openly in whatever style or fashion and timing..HE SEES FIT TO DO so.
CONCLUDING RE THE COLLECTIONS;
Let’s see how this works in light of the Last Days “Future Church” being “blessd, protected and THOROUGHLY FURNISHED” (as we are standing in faith for..)
Major Blessings. Taveau
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